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Общее


Пол - персонаж, которого легко освоить, но за которого очень тяжело побеждать. Простой инпут, сетапы, техтрапы компенсируются ограниченностью в выборе опций предназначенных для нападения. Пол - персонаж защитный, у него одни из лучших панишей в игре, но как и было сказано выше нечем начать нападение. В offensive игре играть defensive персонажем тяжело. И основная работа, которая ляжет на плечи игрока за него это изучение матч-апов. Так как основная сила Пола в панишах придется потратить время, что бы выучить каждый наказуемый удар каждого персонажа и еще больше времени, что бы привыкнуть правильно это панишить в игре, что не так просто как кажется. Кроме всего прочего Пол - персонаж далеко не самый безопасный, большинство его хороших опций имеют большой минус на блоке и больно наказываются, этим, собсвенно, и объясняется ограниченность в выборе опций. Его оки так же не самое лучшее, хорошее, но ничего выдающегося по сравнению с другими персонажами.

Джагглы

d/f+2_u/f+4_(f,f+3,)4 (add 3 dmg): 4, f,f,n+3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 79 (bigs only) d/b+2, 3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 79 (bigs only) <d/f+4, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 78 b+3, 3,2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 78 (bigs only and very very hard) qcf+1, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 73 <b+3, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 73 3,2, f+1, f,f~b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 73 d/f+4, f+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72 (weird timing on the b+1,2 on smalls) f+4, f,f,n+1,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72 (hard) b+3, f+4, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72 (misses smalls) 2, qcf+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72 d/f+3, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72 f+2, f,f,n+2, f,f,n+2, b+1<2 (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72 3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72 (misses smalls) b+3, f+1,2, b+1<2 (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 71 d/b+2, 2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 71 2, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 71 f+4, f,f,n+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 71 2, d/f+1,1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 70 b+3, 2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 70 f+2, f+2, f,f,n+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 69 (works on an off axis of 1 full SS or less) f+2, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 68 (off axis staple; hits at any angle consistently) 3,2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 68 f+2, f+2, f,f,n+1,2, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 68 b+3, f+4, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 68 d/b+2, 1,2, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 67 f+2, f+2, f+2, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 67 b+3, 1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 67 d/f+1,1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 66 d/f+1,1, d/f+1~b SWY 1, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 66 f+2, f+2, d/f+1~b SWY 1,(B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 66 f+2, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f,~d/f+1, qcf+2 = 63 + WR oki

u/f,n+4: all from above (add 15 dmg) b+3, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!), f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 88 u/f+3,4, f+1+2 (B!), f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 84

qcf+1: d/f+4, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 88 (misses smalls) b+3, d/b+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 83 qcf+1, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 83 (b+1,2 is hard to connect) f+2, qcf+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 82 3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 82 (misses Wang and Kuma/Panda) f+2, d/f+1,1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 80 qcf+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 79 f+4, f,f,n+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 78 b+3, 1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 77 f+2, f+2, f,f,n+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 74

f,f+3,4: (SSL_f)~d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+1:2:1+2 = 78 (the short SSL_small step forward gives the distance needed for b+1<2 to B!) f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 75 f+4, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 73 d/f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 71 d/f+1~b SWY 1, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 70 b+1,2, (B!) f,f+3,4,4 = 70

f,f+4: WS+4, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 78 (Marduk, Dragunov and Miguel only) WS+1, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 75 WS+1, f+1, f,f,n+1, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 70 WS+1, d/f+1~b SWY 1, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 69 WS+1, 1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 69 WS+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 68 WS+1, f+1,2, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 68 FC 1, f,f,n+1, f,f,n+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 66 WS+4, d+1,4,2 = 53 (staple on Kuma/Panda)

  • notes:

WS+1 combos are extremely unreliable on Marduk and Kuma/Panda FC 1 combos are not possible on Kuma/Panda

b+3: iWS+4, <d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 78 (hard on smalls) 3, d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 77 3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 76 (misses smalls) 3,2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72

WS+2: d/b+2, 2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 80 (misses smalls) d/b+2, f+1, f,f,n+1, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 78 (unreliable if you connect WS+2 too deep) f+2, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) (~SSR~f,f_~qcf) d+4:2:1+2 = 77 (hard) d/b+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 76 (unreliable if you connect WS+2 too deep) f+2, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) qcf+2 = 74_67 (character dependent; misses smalls) f+2, d/f+1~b SWY 1, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 74 (hard on smalls) f+2, b+1,2, (B!) qcf<1, f,f+2:1 = 73 f+2, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f+2:1 = 69 f+2, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, 3,2 = 67

  • note: all WS+2 combos above miss Kuma/Panda; use one of the below on bears

f+1, b+1,2, (B!) qcf<1, f,f+2:1 = 70 f+2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) qcf<1, f,f+2:1 = 70

qcf+3+4: f,f,n+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 77 f+4, f,f, d+1,4,2 = 70 f+4, f,f+2:1 = 65 f,f+2:1 = 56

u/f+3,4: b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 70 f+1, f+1+2 (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 67

qcf+1+2: f,f,n+3, d/b+2, b1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 82 f,f,n+3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 81 (misses smalls) f,f,n+3,2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 77 f,f, d/b+2, f+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 77 f,f, qcb+1, (B!) f,f,n+3,2, d+1+2 = 67 f,f, qcb+1, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 63

CH b+2: d/b+2, b+1,2, (B!) qcf+2, f,f+4 = 97 f+1+2, (B!) qcf+2, f,f~qcb+1 = 94 f+1+2, (B!) qcf+1, qcf+2, f,f+4 = 88 qcf+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 87 f+1+2, (B!) qcf+2, f,f+4 = 86 d/b+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 85

CH SS+1: f,f~d/f+4, d/b+2, b+1<2 (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 95 qcf<1, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 90 (works consistently only after a CH SSR+1) f,f,n+3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 89 (misses smalls) f,f,n+3,2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 85

CH qcb+1: qcf+1, f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 91 f,f,n+3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 90 (misses smalls) qcf+1, d/f+1,1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 88 qcf+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 87 f,f,n+3,2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 86 d/b+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 85

CH 4: f,f,n+3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 81 (bigs only) f,f,n+1, qcf+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 78 f,f,n+1, d/b+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 77 d/b+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 76 (only reliable after an off axis to the left CH 4) f,f,n+1,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 74 f,f,n+1, f,f,n+1, f,f,n+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 72 f,f,n+1, f,f,n+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 71 f,f,n+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 70 f,f,n+3,2, d+1,4,2 = 64 f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 64 (only reliable after an off axis to the left CH 4) f,f,n+3,2, d+1+2 = 56 f+4, f,f+2:1 = 53 f,f+2:1 = 44 f+3 = 42

CH (3),2: f,f,n+3,2, f+1, f,f~b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 82 f,f, qcb+1, (B!) qcf<1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 74 f,f, f+1+2, (B!) qcf<1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 73 f,f, qcb+1, (B!) f,f, d/b+2, d+1,4,2 = 70 f,f, f+1+2, (B!) f,f~d/f+1, f+1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 69 f,f, qcb+1, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 65 f,f, f+1+2, (B!) f,f~d/f+1, f+2, qcf+2 = 63

CH (2),3: SSL qcf+1, f+2, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 88 SSL 3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 87 (misses smalls) qcf+1, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 84 SSL 3,2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 83 SSL d/b+2, f+1, f,f,n+1, f,f,n+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 81 + wallcarry SSL d/b+2, b+1,2, (B!) qcf+1, d+1 = 73 + oki

CH 1+2+3 (taunt sign smash): 3,2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 77

wall combos: high splats (d/f+2 W! or u/f+4 W!): qcf+2, (W!) b+1,2 (B!) = 63 dmg (strict timing; off d/f+2 and on bigs only unless at an angle to the wall) f+3, (W!) b+1,2 (B!) = 53 dmg (off d/f+2 only) 2,3, (W!) b+1,2, (B!) = 52 dmg f+2,3, (W!) b+1,2 (B!) = 50 dmg d/f+4, (W!) b+1,2 (B!) = 49 dmg qcf+1, (W!) b+1,2 (B!) = 47 dmg high splats (qcf+3+4 W! or u/f,n+4 W!): 1,2, (W!) b+1,2 (B!) = 66_60 dmg f+4, (W!) b+1,2 (B!) = 66_60 dmg mid splats (post B! after DM W!) qcf+4, (W!) d+1+2, = add 30 dmg (doesn’t hit smalls) d+1,4,2_qcf+2 = add 24 dmg ff+3,4,d+4 = add 23 dmg low splats (post B! after DM w/ W! before last hit connects): d+1+2 = add 18 dmg power wall splats (qcf+2 or ff+2:1 or b+1+2 or qcb+2 or d+1+2 or CH d+1,2, etc.): BD, u+3,4, (W!) b+1,2, (B!) f+4, d+1+2 = 63 dmg w/o starter (close range only) BD, u+3,4, (W!) f+1+2, (B!) d+4:2:1+2 = 56 dmg w/o starter

  • note: you can substitute BD, u+3,4 with BD, qcf+1_d/b+2; both do less dmg but don't suffer the off axis whiffing issues, in fact at certain angle both will result in a simple float into juggle

Wall combos post wall B! (power wall splat into b+1,2 or qcb+1 or f+1+2 wall B!) iWS+4, d+1+2 (overall most damaging with b+1,2 wall B!; misses smalls) d/f+4, d+1+2 (most damaging post wall B!, but doesn’t work after a b+1,2 wall B!; misses smalls) f+4, d+1+2 (misses smalls unless off axis) d/f+1~b SWY+2 (misses smalls) d/f+1,1,2 (misses smalls) d/f+1, d+1+2 d+1,4,2 (gives mediocre oki) qcf+2 (gives mediocre oki) d+4:2:1+2 (doesn’t work after a b+1,2 wall B!) d+1 (gives great oki) wallthrows: f,f+1+2, (W!) d/b+2, (W!) b+1,2, (B!) f+4, d+1+2 = 100 dmg (misses smalls unless off axis) f,f+1+2, (W!) d/b+2, (W!) b+1,2, (B!) d/f+1, d+1+2 = 98 dmg f,f+1+2, (W!) d/b+2, (W!) b+1,2, (B!) d+1,4,2_qcf+2 = 95 dmg (gives medicore oki) d/f+1+3:qcf+2, (W!) d/b+2, (W!) b+1,2, (B!) f+4, d+1+2 = 96 dmg (misses smalls unless off axis) d/f+1+3:qcf+2, (W!) d/b+2, (W!) b+1,2, (B!) d/f+1, d+1+2 = 94 dmg d/f+1+3:qcf+2, (W!) d/b+2, (W!) b+1,2, (B!) d+1,4,2_qcf+2 = 91 dmg (gives medicore oki) wallbreak: f,f+1+2, (W!) d/b+2, (W!) qcf+2, (WB!) f+2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2, (W!) f,f, d+1,4,2 = 145 dmg

after low parry: qcf+1, f+2, f,f,n+1, f,f,n+1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 46 qcf+1, f+2, f,f,n+3,2, d+1+2 = 46 d/f+4, f+1, f,f,n+3,2, d+1+2 = 45 d/b+2, f+1, f,f,n+1, f,f,n+1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 44 3,2, f+1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 43 (easier if you add a short SSL before the 3,2) qcf+1, f+2, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 42 3,2, 2, f,f+2:1 = 41 SSL~3,2, d+1,4,2 = 40 qcf+1, f+1, d+4:2:1+2 = 39 d/b+2, f+1, qcf+2 = 37 d/f+1,1, 1, f+2, f,f+2:1 = 37 d/f+1,1, f+1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 37 d/f+1, 1, f,f+3,4,4 = 35 df+1,1, d/f+1,1, d+1+2 = 34

FUFT_FUFA CH 3: u (to cc), qcb+1, (B!) qcf<1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 62 u (to cc), qcb+1, (B!) f,f~d/f+1, f+1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 62 (inconsistent on 2p side) u (to cc), qcb+1, (B!) f,f,n+3,2, d+1+2 = 57 u (to cc), qcb+1, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 56 u (to cc), qcb+1, (B!) f,f~d/f+1, f+2, qcf+2 = 54 f,f (to cc), d+4:2:1+2 = 45

FDFT clean 3: f,f (to cc), 3,2, b+1,2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 69 (misses smalls) f,f (to cc), 3,2, f+1, f+1+2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 65 dmg WS+4, f+1, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 65 WS+4, f+1, f,f,n+1, f+1+2 (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 61 WS+4, 3,2, d+1+2 = 51 WS+4, d+1,4,2 = 46

FDFA clean 3: WS+4, f+1, b+1<2, (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 65 WS+4, f+1, f,f,n+1, f+1+2 (B!) f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 61 WS+4, 3,2, d+1+2 = 51 WS+4, d+1,4,2 = 46

CH running UB! shoulder tackle: d+1,4,2 = 69 qcf+2 = 62 d+1+2 = 61

f+1+2 _ qcb+1 (add 1 dmg) 1st hit B! (e.g. in oki situations) f,f, d/f+1, f+1, f,f,n+1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 49 f,f, d/f+1, f+1, f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 47 qcf+1, f+2, f,f+2:1 = 45 f,f, d/f+1,1, 2, f,f+2:1 = 44 f,f, d/f+1, qcf+2 = 43 f,f,n+3,2, d+1+2 = 42 f,f, d+4:2:1+2 = 40

Паниши

Staniding

i10 - 1,2,3.

i12 - d+1+2.

i14 - b+3(launch)

i15 - u/f+3,4; u/f+4; d/f+2.

While Standing

i11 - ws+4;ws+1 i15 - u/f+4; u/f+3,4. i16 - ws+2 i

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