Мувлист по-любому не полный. И, судя по нему, броски делается по старому.
Видео с локтеста: мм.. груди Май красивы.. Юри стремно выглядит. Кстати, писали, что дп у ней нету, но появился дайв кик. Глитч на 1:30)
На этих видео видоизмененные стейджы из 12го.
Ох как я ненавижу локтестеров...
"Посмотрите Я взял ЧЁНОГО РЁ ШЕН ВУ И ТЕРРИ!!! Я ща вам покажу МАСТЕРКЛАСС!!! Кому НУЖНЫ ЕХ МУВЫ !? КАКОИЕ ЕЩЁ КЕНСЕЛЫ ?! ВИДАЛИ КАК Я НАДРАЛ КИНГА, ДАЖЕ СДЕЛААТЬ ЕЙ НИФИГА НЕ ДАЛ ! УХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХА!!!"
Ох как я ненавижу локтестеров...
"Посмотрите Я взял ЧЁНОГО РЁ ШЕН ВУ И ТЕРРИ!!! Я ща вам покажу МАСТЕРКЛАСС!!! Кому НУЖНЫ ЕХ МУВЫ !? КАКОИЕ ЕЩЁ КЕНСЕЛЫ ?! ВИДАЛИ КАК Я НАДРАЛ КИНГА, ДАЖЕ СДЕЛААТЬ ЕЙ НИФИГА НЕ ДАЛ ! УХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХАХА!!!"
Hey guys.
The locktest will continue until sunday. the man that was there for me knows well japanese industry and producers, he also worked for several mags. He explained to me that kof XII was this way cause it cost a lot of money to do and that they needed easy and fast money, they needed to sell something. So kof XII get out this way on consoles very early. They putted kof 2002 um in arcades so the game sold correctly in asia (china, corea, thailand) and even did things like... Kof Sky Stage.
Now let's see what options they already explored :
- Kof 98 and 2002 remakes (the favorites) : done and is ok
- Kof in 3D : done and fail
- Kof in other genres : partially done and fail/gave something correct (kof sky stage and kof online)
- Putting games on xboxlive (correct conversation but bad online)
You see ? They used all they can use to make games and sell them and it's correct/failure most of the time. Now what can they do ? Kof XI UM ? Maybe yeah but seriously ? They only can do Kof XIII the way they wanted it from the beginning and that's all. And why do they have to succed with kof XIII ?
- It cost A LOT of money to do
- It cost A LOT of time (5 years !!)
- They cannot do a remix/revamp of another kof because it's already done or the people behind the old kof (shinkiro, coders, sprites designers) are gone for years to other companies
- They can't afford another one if this one does not sell a bit, it will mean they is no public for kof
And what are the goals ?
- They want to find new players that begun with SFIV (ex moves in a kof ? never seen before !)
- They have to make players slide from old kofs to this one (kof 2002 system, guard cancel, old camera)
- They need to convince arcade owners to buy this kof so SNKP can make money (no console ports announced)
- The need to sell a lot of kof after the arcade version on the consoles with a good online
The thing that we have to understand is that SNKP is in a critical situation because of their fans : they always want new things, but if it's not the exact same as the previous game, it's no good, if there is not THE character they love, it's no good, if there is only 9 stages it's no good. You can't satisfy old kof fans even when you try to be kind with a gameplay they know, they will say the design is not their taste. Even with 35 characters, there will be one they wanted.A problem is Kof fans aren't watching the actual game but wishing for their personnal game to come.
SNKP have to make a kof that will convince everyone like capcom did with SFIV (or almost did) to switch or begin but they do not have the same people to do the game (the director of dimps, who is the company that did SFIV, is the man behind SFI ! But all the people behind all kofs are gone so you can't copycat them) and it's taking a risk, they are in the same situation Arcsys was when losing guilty gear rights : asking players to switch, or it's the end.
All these reasons, are hintches that gave us this conclusion : SNKP is putting their balls on the table, but at the opposite side, they are doing a lot to gain success :
- The graphics will convince most of the people now that the zoom is over (for hardcore gamers) and the pixelisation gone (for newbies and game reviewers)
- The system is well knowned of the players and can be learned easily by begginers because it has less options than kof XII.
- They are doing a bit the same thing that capcom did with SF3 : give us chun-li ! Here they are giving Mai and other characters the fan really wanted and it counts a lot
- The game will be first in arcades for months, so arcades can buy it and be sure they will make money with it -> the game will have a life
- The game will have a tournament on the tougeki
- The home port will have more time to be done, same for netcode
- They are putting an end for the Ash arc (seven years after the first game !) and giving what fans want and if it works, they will be able to run a totally new arc
- Come back of bosses, storyline
Впечатление о локтесте:
- The charging C+D and combos from C+D attacks from KOFXII are gone.
- The elephants from the India stage looks CG, very beautiful.
- The Paris stage with the fat ladies from KOFXII now has Arc de Triomphe in the background.
- Duolon's SDM is super annoying, always catches jumping opponents off-guard.
- Clark's Argentine Backbreaker SDM now looks more like his classic move where he backbreaks & slam his opponents into the floor, unlike in KOFXII where he just knee drop them at the end.
- Terry has an alternate color that makes him look like Robert.
- And Robert too has an alternate color that makes him look like Terry
- Yuri has an alternate color that makes her look like Iroha from Samurai Showdown.
- Benimaru has an alternate color which makes his arms silver metallic in color, dark pants & topless, so he looks like Jax from Mortal Kombat (?!)
Не хватает игре каких-нибудь злых харизматичных антогонистов. А жаль, ведь у SNK такие колоритные персонажи. Могли бы такого охрененного бойца замутить.
Cold писал(а):Не хватает игре каких-нибудь злых харизматичных антогонистов. А жаль, ведь у SNK такие колоритные персонажи. Могли бы такого охрененного бойца замутить.
System notes:
CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS VERSION
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GRAPHICS
- Characters are smaller and it's easier to see the full screen.
- As of now there aren't any stages that make it hard to see the characters.
SYSTEM
- All KOFXII systems (CC, sousai, guard attack) have been removed
- BAKUSUTE(?) has probably not been made shorter (wtf is bakusute? it's written in katakana)
- Throws are back to lever + button motion
- Kara cancels are possible again.
GAME SYSTEM
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8- way lever + 4 buttons.
COUNTER HITS
Counter hits have a blue effect when they occur, similar to KOFXII but the effect isn't the same.
A few counter hit animations are like KOFXII but the window is short, sort of like the interval between dashing and doing a strong attack.
GUARD CRUSH
Guard meter under the lifebar, your guard drops when it becomes empty. However at the current time it seems to recover much faster than it's lost, so there haven't been that many guard crushes seen. On top of that it looks like the guard crush window is very tight so it's very hard to take advantage of it. Wondering if drive attacks will have a bigger effect on the guard meter.
GUARD CANCEL
Revived from older games. Costs 1 power stock. Does damage, but not possible to KO with it.
STUN
This has also returned. However unlike XI there's no visible stun meter so it's not possible to know when it's going to happen.
POWER GAUGES
Return of multiple power stocks. You get one additional stock per team member that you lose (much like earlier games). Feels like they charge up faster than in previous games.
EX SPECIAL MOVES/DESPERATION MOVES
Use 1 stock to do powered up specials or DMs. The powering up depends on the move - might be more damage, invincibility, etc.
EX specials have a blue shadow sort of effect to them while EX DMs are red (versus yellow for regular DMs)
DRIVE GAUGE
Green gauge above the power gauge. The length increases by 50% every time you lose a character (so that the gauge is twice as long when you're down to your last character). Fills up at about the same rate as the power gauge, so pretty quickly. However, whiffing special moves will not fill the drive gauge (although it still fills the power gauge).
DRIVE CANCEL
Can be used as soon as the drive gauge passes 50%, which means that on your last character it can be used up to four times.
You can cancel special moves as well as command moves that couldn't normally be cancelled into other special moves and DMs.
HYPERDRIVE MODE
Press BC when the drive gauge is maxed out to activate. Your character will have a sort of hazy afterglow and will be able to do as many drive cancels as he wants. The gauge doesn't fall faster if you do a cancel like in '02. However if you take any damage the mode ends.
ELISABETH (might be inaccurate since the author wasn't familiar with Elisabeth in XII)
- More effects on her moves
- Regained dp+P and QCF,HCB+P
- QCF,HCB+P connects after dp+C
- dp+C has upper body invincibility. Low attacks beat it.
- EX QCFx2+P fires off 'light bullets' during the second half of the move. Probably can be beaten by guard cancel rolling.
DUO LON
- New move QCB+P. Fires off a haze that cancels fireballs (maybe the EX version only?). Looks like it has no hitbox...use it for mindgames?
- When his EX DM hits something that looks like a high-speed hurricane mixer (Huh) appears.
- Can't cancel his QCF+Px3 into teleport without a drive cancel
SHEN WOO
- Far standing D has a new animation. A high kick with slow startup.
- Jump D crosses up easier
- QCF+C has slower startup and more lag. The EX version knocks the opponent away.
- EX QCB+A has more range and seemingly faster startup
- QCF+K has small range as usual but the EX version has more range
- QCFx2+P can probably be used the same was as it was in KOFXI. EX version is faster and has full-body invincibility - so much so you can use it as anti-air!
- C,A,B,C DM is present, but no headbutt (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!)
- stand C, f+B, QCF+A DC QCF+K DC QCFx2+P is a combo, although this is the same combo that had some tough links in XII. Seems like poor use of the drive gauge (lol)
- It'd be nice if he could do anything from low attacks...
KYO
- Regained air d+C. Hard knockdown on an aerial opponents, long stun on grounded opponents. Can be used to cross up.
- Can still combo stand B -> dp+P. On the second hit of dp+P you can drive cancel to QCF+K and combo to Orochinagi (ouch!)
- QCF+P seems to have less lag?
- Gained mid-air Orochinagi. Voice clip is 'Kore de kimeru ze!'
- Doesn't seem to have changed much.
- Seems very strong.
BENIMARU
- Regained Benimaru Koreda (his command throw)
- Might have regained his air throw?
DAIMON
- Regained dp+K
- HCF+A somehow managed to grab a standing Shen. Was it always like that? Might be stronger in terms of priority.
IORI
- Gained a new command move df+C. Swings an arm downward as if he were hitting a stake. Hits mid.
- Regained his air b+B
- dp+P has more lag? EX version does two hits and floats the opponent.
- HCF+P doesn't launch the opponent so high that he can't be seen anymore
MATURE
- Don't know much about her KOFXII version.
- Despair (dp+P), Death Row (QCB+Px2), Ebony Tears (QCF,HCB+P) and Metal Massacre (QCB+K) regained
(She has dp+P in KOFXII, but whatever)
TERRY
- Can't cancel standing B. Tried to cancel into a command move and failed.
- far C cancellable
- crouch D can be cancelled into command moves
- far D has new animation. Looks like the KOFXI animation. Might be useful as an anti-air.
- jump D crosses up easier. (seems like this is the case with a lot of characters)
- df+C seems to have a bigger frontal hitbox
- f+A comes out slower
- Power Wave comes out slower but has less lag. EX version does 3 hits.
- B Crack Shoot is an overhead and does multiple hits. EX version might hit mid and has faster startup. Hard knockdown on counter hits against an airborne opponent.
- Burn Knuckle seems the same? EX version does multiple hits and makes the opponent fly upwards. Not sure if you can follow up afterwards.
- Rising Tackle has no change. EX version goes vertically straight up and does something like 25 hits (lol) and has fast startup.
ANDY
- Can't brake Reppadan any more. Can still cross up with it, though.
- EX Zaneiken can move from one side of the screen to another
- EX Hishouken flies faster.
- EX Choureppadan is good enough to be used as an anti-air.
JOE
- Regained Ougon no Kakato (QCB+K). B version flies low while D version goes high, but neither has much lag.
- Regained Bakuretsu Hurricane Tiger Kakato. Can be connected from weak attacks.
- Slash Kick has more lag
- D Tiger Kick has a lower trajectory
- EX Hurricane Upper shoots 3 projectiles. Regular version has less lag?
- Sliding is a command move, and knocks down even when cancelled into. More lag?
KIM
- Regained mid-air Houou Kyaku.
- f,f+D is now done as f,f+A
RAIDEN
- Gained Super Drop Kick (hold K for ten seconds and release) and Crazy Train (QCFx2+P)
- Regular version of Giant Bomb has more lag? EX version knocks the opponent up.
ATHENA
- Psycho Ball has less lag. EX version does 3 hits and has 'penetrating power' (?? goes through other fireballs, maybe?)
- Regained Psychic Teleport. EX version included.
- Throw animation has changed. Athena teleports to diagonally above the opponent and throws them.
KENSOU
- Has normals from KOFXII but specials from his earlier versions.
- Regained Chokyuudan (fireball), Ryusogeki (air QCB+P) and QCF,HCB+P DM.
- Lost QCB+A, QCB+C from KOFXII
- Still has QCB+K from KOFXII.
- Pressing B+D makes him do his KOFXII backstep
- Ryuugakusai has its command reversed (rdp+K instead of dp+K...the way it used to be)
CHIN
- Didn't see him much so no idea how he's changed.
RYO
- far D is the same as close D. Maybe they'll change this?
- far C cancellable
- jump D crosses up easier
- C Ko'ouken has more lag. EX version does 3 hits.
- EX Kohou does 3 hits. No idea if there's any effect on invincibility.
- B Hienshippuukyaku is the same. D Hienshippuukyaku whiffs against crouchers. EX version is faster and resembles Takuma's version of the move - it launches. Maybe you need to use a drive cancel to follow up?
ROBERT
- Can cancel his low attacks
- Has all his moves from KOFXII
RALF
- Regained air QCF+P.
- Vulcan Punch has more lag? Can't connect a stand D after it anymore. Instead of that you can drive cancel to Galactica Phantom.
CLARK
- Regained Gatling Attack
- Still has his forward step move from XII
LEONA
- Regular V-slasher has been weakened.
MAI
- How to say this...she benefits a lot from the new system.
- Both A and C Ryuuenbu have low lag and can be followed up with stand A in the corner. If the opponent is in mid-air even stand C is possible.
- Musasabi no Mai is great for comboing in the corner. If you hit them near their feet (i.e. space it so that it hits them at the lower part of their hitbox) they shouldn't be able to retaliate.
- Hissatsu Shinobi Bachi is fast enough to combo from light attacks, and is damaging.
- d.B -> B -> Hissatsu Shinobi Bachi DC Musasabi no Mai -> C Ryuuenbu -> Chou Hissatsu Shinobi Bachi is a combo.
- Kachousen has slower startup but less lag
- Jump CD felt a little too fast
- She has an air throw which can be used in combos.
- EX Chou Hissatsu Shinobi Bachi is invincible.
YURI
- Gained a new move, midair df+B which is very much like Yun/Yang's Raigekishuu from 3S. She changes trajectory suddenly with no voice clip so it's a bit startling.
- Raiohken has her jumping up to do the move again. Startup is slow. EX version shoots two fireballs.
- Can't charge up Ko'ouken? Haohshokoken is a DM.
- Hyakuretsu Binta seems to have faster startup than usual.
- Not sure how effective her Saiha is
- Hien Hou'ou Kyaku connects from light attacks
- df+D isn't on her movelist, nor did I see it, so it probably doesn't combo from light attacks (lol)
KING
- Sliding is unsafe on block
- Gained a mid-air Venom Strike. Flies horizontally with unlimited range.
- Venom Strike is the same as it was. No high/low variations.
- Tornado Kick is the '95 version. Doesn't seem to have any invincibility.
- DMs are Surprise Rose and Double Strike. Didn't seem to have Illusion Dance.
- Surprise Rose can cross up as King dives. Can escape by rolling.
ASH
- Same old Guile clone (lol)
- A Ventose has so little lag that you can combo it into a sweep if you're close enough (can't remember if the XII version was just like that). C version is unchanged.
- EX version of Genie will make two flames appear on the screen. The locations probably depend on the two buttons you used to activate the EX version.
- Thermidor has faster startup, but only does 5 hits
- Sans-culotte has the same speed and lack of range. No other changes.
Еще видео с 1го локтеста:
Алсо, почему в игре нет K'?
Вопрос глуповат, если ты серьезно, тебе не кажется? Каждый может спросить почему нету того или иного персонажа.. Их же куча.
И еще не все потеряно, может впихнут его еще, сам бы этого хотел.
Последний раз редактировалось Supreme 27 мар 2010, 15:41, всего редактировалось 1 раз.
Вопрос глуповат, если ты серьезно, тебе не кажется?
глуповат вопрос был бы в том случае, если бы K' был бы каким-нибудь сакральным "третий труп слева", а поскольку он один из основных персонажей игры, то мне кажется, что такой вопрос вполне закономерен.
True Rainfall Insane Drop Slash - Hold any button for 81 sec, then release (правда чардж можно переносить с кнопки на кнопку, типа зажимая одну зажать другую а потом первую можно отпустить)
