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Очень похожая ситуация :
Когда ждал СФ4, был весь на иголках, жадно хавал все видео, скрины, промо,
и тут я увидел лысого мужика в трусах, ультра которого - выстрелить врага из шарика на животе лицом в экран,
сложно передать какой это был удар ниже пояса по серьёзному отношению к СФ4 тогда

Кинул сейчас ролик нескольким знакомым в аську и получил первые комментарии:

- это что за хеллбой в мыле?

- лучше бы сделали ходячий х*й в пол экрана ростом

- ну посмотрим - может ещё уберут ? (надеюсь)

- Прикольно =) А чё так рано ? ещё же не апрель

Broken_Angel писал(а):похоже длина слайда зависит от такого наскока он намазался маслом...

I had my reservations about Makoto, but this is another character I spent a lot of time with and I think she will end up being pretty strong even though she is a little different from her Third Strike counterpart. I don't see her being the unstoppable beast that she was in Third Strike, but there is no way she will be low tier after spending some time with her tonight.

For those of you who don't know, I played Makoto extensively back when Third Strike was a popular game- so I pretty much know her Third Strike game like the back of my hand (even if I am a little rusty at the game itself these days). This was a good and bad thing considering much of her game is the same, but little nuances are much different, which threw me off many times while playing.

She is still an all-or-nothing character in that once she gets on a roll it can be pretty difficult to stop her rushdown, but when she is being rushed-down you will just have to wait it out until you get an opening in that she doesn't have a solid reversal move.

That said, her EX Karakusa has armor, making it a pretty scary move when someone else is recklessly rushing you down. You will absorb one hit then grab the opponent, allowing her to perform her classic Fierce into Hayate. Her normal Karakusas seem to have significantly less range than they did in Third Strike. I couldn't seem to land one after a connected Hayate, and after certain ticks the opponent was pushed back too far to grab them.

Speaking of ticks, ticking into Karakusa was a great tactic in Third Strike, but with meaty attacks being a little more difficult to time in Street Fighter 4, it's a little harder to set up Karakusas using this strategy. I think that even though her core game is the same, most players will have to figure out new set ups to land a Karakusa in Super Street Fighter 4.

One thing I will mention about her Karakusa, is that her Kara-Karakusa does not work with Standing light Kick like it did in Third Strike. There may be other ways for her to Kara her Karakusa but the traditional Light Kick cancel simply did not come out.

Her Tsurugi (Axe Kick) is actually pretty good in Super Street Fighter 4 but the timing and applications are different in Super than they were in Third Strike. In Third Strike the move had a long arc, meaning you could delay it quite a bit and it would still hit. Now, the move must be done very early and almost right off the ground for it to be useful. The Light and Medium versions hit the opponent leaving them open for a combo, while the Roundhouse version knocks down. The EX Version knocks down and is two hits.

Her EX Oroshi (overhead chop) is still pretty fast and truthfully I didn't really mess around with the normal version. Again, with meaty attacks being a little different than Third Strike, it was a little harder to do classic set ups like C.LK cancel into EX Orishi.

Her Fukiage (Uppercut) is actually pretty decent in this game, much better than it was in Third Strike. Some of the normal versions move her forward while the EX version increases the range even more. Because most of the versions move her forward, I was able to connect it on many players who were jumping in with attacks. It's no substitute for a Dragon Punch but it's a nice addition to her game.

Then of course you have her Hayate, her classic punch to the chest (or other areas depending on how tall the opponent is!). Crouching Medium Punch into Hayate was the go-to combo for the night with her as her crouching medium punch is a great poking tool. The EX version still seems to be relatively safe on block considering I was able to follow up with a Jab Hayate to punish any sort of reversals. Of course, the old tricks like attack into Hayate Cancel, dash in and grab are still there as well.

One ting I'll have to mention is that her command normals seem nearly useless in this game. It felt like there was an enormous amount of lag when trying to get them to come out. In Third Strike you could land an EX Hayate and use Forward + Roundhouse to step in toward the opponent. This same timing seemed non-existant so I am not sure what the deal is with her command normals. I tried using them a number of times but they simply did not want to come out until I was extremely slow in pressing the button after tapping forward.

Jump Round House, Standing Fierce into EX Hayate is still a really good combo and seems even easier to connect in Super Street Fighter 4 than in 3s. That said, the timing for Karakusa, Fierce into Hayate seems a little harder than it was in 3s, but I am confident that is just a different timing or the lag on the TVs.

I didn't really ever go for her Super into Ultra combo like many have seen in the Justin Wong videos. I ended up using EX Karakusa and EX Hayate a lot so I rarely had a Super to begin with. Both of her Ultras seem pretty good, with her second Ultra seemingly used to punish projectiles. She can move around while the opponent is in the air after the last hit, so I am sure there are some good follow up combos using the Second Ultra as well.

Her dash is obviously still very good with it being extremely fast and covering a large distance. Focusing through a fireball and dashing in seems to be a viable strategy for closing in on characters.

All in all, I think Makoto will be pretty good, although I think hardcore Makoto players will have a hard time adjusting to her new styles.

ShakkaShuu писал(а):как может это чудо нравится?особенно ультра..этож клоунада

ShakkaShuu писал(а):ты забыл про баланс рассказать, основанный на посте визарда

Goga писал(а):Да ну, ультра лишь подчеркивает его индивидуальность и делает его еще более харизматичным. А вообще я заметил, во Франции народ оч любит подобного рода фишки, а у нас сразу срач подымаетсяxD